Reevaluation of Online Services: Part 3

Posted: January 26th, 2009 | Author: Brandice |

(This is a continuation of this post on reevaluation of my online services. You can also read Part 1 and Part 2.)

Okay, so here’s the big reevaluation that I’ve done in the past several weeks, and it’s the one that some of you may have been curious about since I started this series… it’s time to look at video. (Note: Live video options will be reviewed separately.)

Video is something that I’ve really been thinking about for a while, and it’s a complicated area of online media. Video can be complicated and time consuming regardless of which service you choose, so choosing the video service that gives you what you want and gives it to you in the simplest way possible is an absolute must in my book.

Here’s a very quick look at each of the services I’m currently using from my perspective:


TubeMogul


Ease of use - Dead simple. You upload one video, and TubeMogul sends it to any other video site you’d like to have that video on. It’s awesome.

Stability and support - Never had any issues.

Community - N/A, TubeMogul is for distributing video, not really community interaction.

Features - It offers uploading, distribution to any site I’d want to use, and amazing stats. TubeMogul is epic is in this category.

Integration - As I’ve mentioned above, it offers distribution to every hosting site I want to use right now.

Quality - TubeMogul doesn’t alter the video in any way, simply sends it along to other hosting sites for mass distribution. Quality remains in tact, zero degradation.

CONCLUSION - I plan on using TubeMogul for mass distribution of my videos, so that people can watch them on several of the different sites that they may prefer. Below you’ll find the ones that I do and don’t plan on using via TubeMogul.
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YouTube

Ease of use - YouTube is pretty darn easy to use, good FAQ.

Stability and support - I’ve never gone to YouTube and seen the site down… ever.

Community - The community is huge, which can be a good thing for exposure, but a bad thing for meaningful interaction on a 1 on 1 level, because the community is gigantic.

Features - YouTube now has HD support, ability to add links and notes in to the video, replies, playlists, a lot of good features. Big minus on this front is the time limit to the videos, but I’m not sure that’s still in place. Also huge is the ability to watch YouTube videos on the iPhone, which is one major reason I continue to use it.

Integration - YouTube is one of the most integrated video sites, so uploading from Flip video is simple, a lot of video programs support “send to YouTube” right from their program… VERY integrated with sites and software.

Quality - The quality is sub par. If the video were higher quality, I might not look anywhere else for pre-edited, uploaded video.

CONCLUSION - I plan to use YouTube through TubeMogul for mass distribution, but don’t plan to embed this version of my videos on my site due to poor video quality… for now.
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Vimeo


Ease of use - I mostly use Vimeo through TubeMogul, so I can’t really speak to the uploading process on the site, but I’ve never had it fail via TubeMogul and the site itself is clean and straightforward.

Stability and support - Never had an issue thus far. Sometimes the video seem to take long to buffer/load than other sites, but I haven’t noticed a huge difference.

Community - I’m fairly new to Vimeo, so I haven’t really seen much of the community aspect. There are a lot of groups and channels, so there seems to be a lot of good potential.

Features - The features are limited. Restrictions are made on the amount of weekly uploads, etc., but thus far, those restrictions haven’t effected me due to my cut back on recorded and edited video of this nature.

Integration - Vimeo has nice integration with Facebook and works with TubeMogul, which are two things I like. No iTunes feeds that I’ve seen, which is a minus on any video hosting site.

Quality - Quality is good and I really like the player. It’s simple and very clean, just like the site itself, and I really, really like that.

CONCLUSION - I’ve been using Vimeo a lot more lately, and I plan to continue using it via TubeMogul. I use Vimeo for sharing my produced (non-live, etc.) videos on Facebook, and I occasionally use it for embedding on my blog as well.
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Blip.tv


Ease of use - Blip has an uploader app, uploading is simple, distribution is simple, iTunes feed setup and management is cake, EASY to use.

Stability and support - Never, ever have had an issue.

Community - No real community. This isn’t Blip’s strong suit, but given everything else they offer, it isn’t much of a minus factor.

Features - Holy CRAP. Blip just literally KILLS every competitor in this category. iTunes feeds, several distribution options (between TubeMogul and Blip, mass distribution is insanely easy), and the Pro account will convert your videos into separate iPod-friendly and audio feeds. There IS NO COMPETITION in this category… Blip wins to the point of smacking the rest of the sites in the face, and they’ve been doing it for longer than any other site has even been considering these features.

Integration - AWESOME. See previous comments on features.

Quality - Quality is great, Pro account video conversions turn out beautifully, the site is straightforward and offers a lot, the player is okay (not my favorite), overall really good.

CONCLUSION - If you’re not using Blip.tv, you’re an absolute butthead. They make so many things easy by doing so much of the extra work for you, and it’s just insane not to be using TubeMogul to throw a copy of your video their way for extra exposure via iTunes, Miro, etc. etc. Blip ROCKS.
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Viddler


(Disclaimer: I once worked for Viddler, so maybe some of this is colored by those months of being behind the scenes, but these are my honest impressions. It’s important for me to be honest in spite of any past involvement, especially given that I have concerns.)

Ease of use - Not so much. The flash uploader rarely works the way it’s supposed to, sorting through videos in any area of the site is difficult due to the nature of the paging setup… just not good in a lot of ways. The FAQ is not good, and clear support in how to make your video look as good as possible on the site is constantly lacking.

Stability and support - The site is frequently unstable and support, based on my recent issues with uploading and what I’ve seen over the past year or so, is not good. I recently mentioned that I couldn’t upload at ALL and was asked whether my flash is up to date (with no follow up when I said that it was) and it was suggested that I restart my computer (twice). Technical support interaction is not good, and that is stating it graciously.

Community - Viddler kills it when it comes to community and always has. The community became tightly knit in the early months and has maintained more closeness and interaction than any other video site I’ve seen.

Features - Timed tagging, timed video comments, and customizable players… all things that other sites don’t offer, or at least don’t offer in the same way. However, I’ve noticed that I’ve grown away from using the timed features and the customizable player can irritating in the same way MySpace pages are, in that it gives the user the ability to make their player unbelievably ugly. Also, the features that Viddler is missing or the features that don’t work correctly sometimes overshadow what is unique about Viddler.

Integration - Integration with other sites, services, and programs is poor, and I haven’t seen a lot of enthusiasm for building better integration, other than a really great Facebook app built by Viddler’s intern, Kyle. It’s Viddler’s responsibility to step up in this category.

Quality - It should NOT be as hard as it is on Viddler to make your video look its best, and if it’s going to be as hard as it is to make your video look right, the steps to doing show should be so clearly outlined (for any video editing software, camera, or file type) that there is never a question about how to do it.

CONCLUSION - I’ve exclusively used Viddler’s player for quite a long time, at times even when it resulted in release of a video being delayed. My policy lately has been to use TubeMogul to distribute to Blip, Vimeo and Viddler, and whichever is ready to roll with my video the fastest is the one that gets embedded at that time. I think at this point I only continue to use Viddler due to the community aspect, and I honestly wonder how much longer that advantage will continue to carry them when the site support and quality assurance are dragging the site under.
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*ahem*

Okay, so there you have it. These are the video hosting/distributing services that I currently use and how I’ll plan on using them henceforth. I currently upload to TubeMogul, distribute to YouTube (for mass exposure, easy viewing on iPhone), Vimeo (clean, attractive player, good quality embedding), Blip (iTunes feed, further distribution), and Viddler (keep updated with community, use my custom player).

I think video is one area where quality, ease of use, and getting the features you need are paramount, and loyalty to a service that doesn’t keep up in the technology race is detrimental to one’s time and energy. Video is tough if you don’t have the type of services that take away some of the stress, so my advice is to switch around and find the player and the service that makes sharing your online video easiest and makes your video the most accessible. If that isn’t the service you’re currently using, maybe it’s time to look at why you’re still using it.

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  • Great article, Brandice. I actually had no idea that Blip was capable of so much (which is surprising, seeing as I have a friend or two who distribute exclusively through them).
  • Thanks. :) I'm glad to have highlighted some options you may not have known about, whether you decide they're the best for you or not. :)
  • Thank you for this interesting in-depth-article about all the video services, Brandice. Sometimes when I was uploading to Youtube lately it felt a little bit like cheating, because of the community. Of course this is totally nonsense.
    Again, thanks for sharing your experiences.
  • Glad you liked the write-up. :)

    And you're right, it's total nonsense to feel like you're cheating. you should be using the absolute best service for you, and maybe that changes from day to day based on what you want... embed whatever you want, I say. :)
  • Hmm, I've been thinking about getting back into making videos, and now you're making me wonder where I should be posting them. I have a Vimeo account, mostly because I wanted to share some India videos with co-workers, but didn't want to give them my Viddler account. I like the site.

    Blergh, we may have to have a conference about this.
  • The other thing to keep in mind are things like Qik, because if you're not going to edit the video and it's more important to just get a tiny blip out there, Qik does ALL of the work for you and it's live at the time and then saved immediately online (and crossposted to YouTube automatically if you want). Live video that is autosaved is what I plan to use for the little stuff like weightoday or metoday, etc. because it's EASY.
  • Thanks for your honest remarks. We're always striving to do better and I hope that I can parse through the information here and turn these into goals for us internally.

    I'm sorry you're having uploading issues. We're not getting a lot of support issues in that area and we are processing more videos on a daily basis than ever before. We'll be doing an update soon and then I'll loop back with you to see if that resolved your issue(s).
  • What's important to remember about what is frustrating in what I mentioned above: the service, not the issue. It doesn't matter if there are less problems if the problems that DO occur aren't dealt with in an absolutely stellar way, and that is where Viddler is missing the boat and has been in ways that you and I have talked about in the past. The timely, consistent, and extremely polite technical support is not there, and without it, Viddler will never have that amazing aura that Brightkite and other small but extremely service-oriented companies have about them.

    "Small company" is not an excuse, especially when the complaint is not being able to upload at all (with at least one other person having the same problem), and Jason throwing a halfhearted "is your flash updated" at me and having Derek suggest that I restart my computer is just kind of insulting, especially given that it's ME (I mean, come on).

    Quality assurance... have you looked at groups? I hadn't really realized just how bad they are until browsing through some of those other video sites and realizing that Viddler's groups are absolutely out of control and nothing but spam. Look at the tags cloud on the "browse groups" page and every new group is spam. Quality assurance (and you know who that is) doesn't catch mispellings or a million little bugs that make Viddler seem glitchy instead of smooth sailing compared to these other sites.

    QA and technical support (not what Rachel's doing, actual TECH support, including a functional and helpful FAQ written and maintained by tech staff) are going to bury you guys soon if you don't get it under control. I had no idea that there was such a stark difference until seeing how many of those issues *aren't* issues on other sites.
  • !00% agreed. So you know, we're hiring in both of the QA and Support positions at the moment. We realize this is our biggest hole - and are working to correct it.

    Your input is invaluable Brandice. Always has been. I'm hoping that you're always as free with advice as you have been for so long - no matter how good we react to it - so that we at least have the chance to catch our biggest faults.
  • Another great write up Brandice. I'm glad you were honest about your write up regarding Viddler. As much as I love them, they've started to drop off in ways you mentioned above. With that being said, I will probably stick with them just because of the community.
  • I think I'll always crosspost to them regardless of who I embed on my blog with. I don't think it really matters who you embed with on your site, but if you want interaction from the other members of a video hosting service, Viddler is a definite must right now.

    Glad you enjoyed the write-up! :)
  • Do you still think blip.tv is the way to go? I really want to post my videos to someplace with an iTunes compatible feed.
  • From what I know (and I'm not necesssarily as up to date on things as I used to be), Blip is still a good way to go, with at least a crosspost to YouTube. Given that YouTube is the main service that plays nice with the iPhone, I really think it's a must.

    Let me know if you've got a fun video project in the works... I don't want to miss it! :)
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